So much derision toward the Green Party, but we DO operate democratically, and we simultaneously navigate all sorts of internalized oppression. But we do it. These folks never had a plan for actually getting on the ballot, either.
Enough "progressive." It's a meaningless term.We need an independent worker's party of the left.
I am a current volunteer of MPP and a few of the people interviewed in this article were not good faith actors. It is not a party yet, that is what we are building. The petition process has been on-going and has had very positive impact on the organizing and communication. Some were inpatient and went out of their way to smear those working to build this party which will elect leadership at the founding convention, vote on by-laws, but for that to happen, the States need to organize which is happening right now because it is representatives from the States that will be democratically representing and deciding the National platform, rules, etc. People need to understand that things don't happen overnight, sometimes the path is bumpy and if you are not part of the solution, you must be part of the problem. Things are working smoothly, multiple States are preparing to launch, mistakes are being owned and issues are being resolved. Perhaps Kamilah Harris may like to share her private conversations publicly and explain how attacking brand new members for hours in a shared work space is acceptable hate that they accuse others of holding towards them. The toxicity of her comments were disgraceful and her own impatience and inability to work with other volunteers is her problem, not MPP. I hope people understand that when people won't work the process, then make it harder for others to do so, they create the environment for failure. We are not failing in this organization, we are building a party free of corporate influence and financing and it is rocking a few boats. I wish the people luck with their own political future, they will need it with their characters as they are.
Where is the evidence for these claims. I see a lot of talk about slack messages, twitter DMs, etc, but I see no evidence in this article. I remember looking into some of these things as it was happening, and there was a Twitter DM thread posted, showing that the people bringing the petition, were doing so in bad faith. I do not know where to find those screenshots anymore, but I fell that if you are writing articles making extreme accusations of "shadowy backroom negotiations, ring kissing, and, to date, the antithesis of a transparent democracy." then you need to back that up with some evidence, not just the accusations of a handful of people. I'm still skeptical of MPP, but I am also skeptical of "volunteers" who seem to be spreading the same talking points that always get rolled out for 3rd parties: "Not a real party. Will never win" "Horrible leadership" "No platform". These are all recycled tropes. For an Org that just started 4 years ago, and only really gained speed in the last 2 years, it seems like the same old BS to roll out the "They dont have any candidates" I'd like to point out, it is much easier to increase interest in your party when the MSM and former volunteers aren't spreading unverified smears around about them. In summary, this seems disingenuous.
This is really concerning. I've been informally boosting TPP for months now in the genuine belief that they had the expertise and the drive to be applying that truly represented a Progressive Left Party. I hope this is a smart piece but I'm not sure why this site might do that.
I don't know what to believe, but I disrespect The Vanguard for not including oppositional voices (anyone from PP.) These people may have legitimate grievances, but just as likely (maybe moreso, considering the dirty tactics employed by the Dems against any leftist) this might be only be a hit piece. I'm still registered PP in opposition to the two major parties, and I'd need much more proof before jumping on the bandwagon to trash a new party that's just trying to get off the ground.
Unless the Green party and MPP, stand for destroying the Oligarchichal system.. Even if they were to rise, they would be merely taking a seat at the Oligarchichal system table, helping none of us...
The thing is, anybody promoting a third party, is sort of gaslighting peeps... There is NO possible way a 3rd party, still loyal to the values of the Republic, would be allowed to rise.. Even from within an Oligarchichal party... It would be suicidal and detrimental to the Oligarchichal parties, and in proxy the Oligarchichal system itself... The 2 Oligarchichal parties must be disbanded or destroyed first, or nothing changes... Regardless if you go Green or MPP.. If you choose Green, the Oligarchichal parties will simply have you removed from the ballot..
Hello Folks hope you are well. I have a suggestion for guest for the show. Please check it out.
Ben Brucato is a professor at Framingham State and he is excellent on the history of the police and race. He would make an excellent guest. Please check out this program he did recently on the Against the grain radio program.
This program gets to the heart of the creation of whiteness ("race") and the police. They both developed in response to the growth of chattel slavery in the US and capitalism as the economic system.
I can not recommend it enough. Mr. Brucato precisely explains the subject in a clear and understanding way. Please take the time to listen.
So much derision toward the Green Party, but we DO operate democratically, and we simultaneously navigate all sorts of internalized oppression. But we do it. These folks never had a plan for actually getting on the ballot, either.
Enough "progressive." It's a meaningless term.We need an independent worker's party of the left.
I am a current volunteer of MPP and a few of the people interviewed in this article were not good faith actors. It is not a party yet, that is what we are building. The petition process has been on-going and has had very positive impact on the organizing and communication. Some were inpatient and went out of their way to smear those working to build this party which will elect leadership at the founding convention, vote on by-laws, but for that to happen, the States need to organize which is happening right now because it is representatives from the States that will be democratically representing and deciding the National platform, rules, etc. People need to understand that things don't happen overnight, sometimes the path is bumpy and if you are not part of the solution, you must be part of the problem. Things are working smoothly, multiple States are preparing to launch, mistakes are being owned and issues are being resolved. Perhaps Kamilah Harris may like to share her private conversations publicly and explain how attacking brand new members for hours in a shared work space is acceptable hate that they accuse others of holding towards them. The toxicity of her comments were disgraceful and her own impatience and inability to work with other volunteers is her problem, not MPP. I hope people understand that when people won't work the process, then make it harder for others to do so, they create the environment for failure. We are not failing in this organization, we are building a party free of corporate influence and financing and it is rocking a few boats. I wish the people luck with their own political future, they will need it with their characters as they are.
Where is the evidence for these claims. I see a lot of talk about slack messages, twitter DMs, etc, but I see no evidence in this article. I remember looking into some of these things as it was happening, and there was a Twitter DM thread posted, showing that the people bringing the petition, were doing so in bad faith. I do not know where to find those screenshots anymore, but I fell that if you are writing articles making extreme accusations of "shadowy backroom negotiations, ring kissing, and, to date, the antithesis of a transparent democracy." then you need to back that up with some evidence, not just the accusations of a handful of people. I'm still skeptical of MPP, but I am also skeptical of "volunteers" who seem to be spreading the same talking points that always get rolled out for 3rd parties: "Not a real party. Will never win" "Horrible leadership" "No platform". These are all recycled tropes. For an Org that just started 4 years ago, and only really gained speed in the last 2 years, it seems like the same old BS to roll out the "They dont have any candidates" I'd like to point out, it is much easier to increase interest in your party when the MSM and former volunteers aren't spreading unverified smears around about them. In summary, this seems disingenuous.
This is really concerning. I've been informally boosting TPP for months now in the genuine belief that they had the expertise and the drive to be applying that truly represented a Progressive Left Party. I hope this is a smart piece but I'm not sure why this site might do that.
Welp, today after seeing The Vanguard's YT vids, I conclude that you are a limited hangout. Bye.
@The Vangaurd, are you ever going to address your comment section and the toxicity that your former guest Kamilah is spreading in your comments?
I don't know what to believe, but I disrespect The Vanguard for not including oppositional voices (anyone from PP.) These people may have legitimate grievances, but just as likely (maybe moreso, considering the dirty tactics employed by the Dems against any leftist) this might be only be a hit piece. I'm still registered PP in opposition to the two major parties, and I'd need much more proof before jumping on the bandwagon to trash a new party that's just trying to get off the ground.
Unless the Green party and MPP, stand for destroying the Oligarchichal system.. Even if they were to rise, they would be merely taking a seat at the Oligarchichal system table, helping none of us...
The thing is, anybody promoting a third party, is sort of gaslighting peeps... There is NO possible way a 3rd party, still loyal to the values of the Republic, would be allowed to rise.. Even from within an Oligarchichal party... It would be suicidal and detrimental to the Oligarchichal parties, and in proxy the Oligarchichal system itself... The 2 Oligarchichal parties must be disbanded or destroyed first, or nothing changes... Regardless if you go Green or MPP.. If you choose Green, the Oligarchichal parties will simply have you removed from the ballot..
Nonsense!
Hello Folks hope you are well. I have a suggestion for guest for the show. Please check it out.
Ben Brucato is a professor at Framingham State and he is excellent on the history of the police and race. He would make an excellent guest. Please check out this program he did recently on the Against the grain radio program.
https://kpfa.org/player/?audio=362119
http://www.benbrucato.com/
This program gets to the heart of the creation of whiteness ("race") and the police. They both developed in response to the growth of chattel slavery in the US and capitalism as the economic system.
I can not recommend it enough. Mr. Brucato precisely explains the subject in a clear and understanding way. Please take the time to listen.
Thank you